How to Get Rid of Indian Meal Moth inside a Home

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Indian meal moths can be found in a variety of materials. They are actually a common pantry pest and can be easily confused with Clothes Moths. The most effective way to find infestations is to start in the pantry and to inspect materials that may host Indian meal moths. Look for webbings as a way to determine if any items are infested. This webbing is made by the larvae before pupation occurs. Any of the following materials can be infested with Indian meal moths: Dried fruits, cereals, nuts, grain products, candy, pet foods, spices, and also any other processed materials that have a vegetable origin. They can also be found in dried flower arrangements and also in scented dried arrangements like potpourri. Powdered milk and flour are also areas of infestation. Keep in mind though, that the larvae will travel off into other locations before the pupa stage and is not attracted to just one food source.

If an infestation is found, the key is sanitation and removal of all the infested materials. If there is no food source, the life cycles of moths will be interrupted. Cleaning agents like soap and water is less effective than to permanently eliminate the food source. Make sure to seal food in air tight containers. Zip-lock bags are not considered air tight. As a matter of fact, larvae can crawl through extremely tight areas and materials that are kept in zip-lock bags are often times infested with Indian meal moth larvae. Being thorough in your cleaning is important for prevention and elimination.

Monitoring devices are also key to track infestations. Such products like Pheromone based traps (4 ALLURE MOTH TRAP CATCHMASTER PANTRY MOTH TRAPS, ) are attractants to male moths. They do not contain any kind of poison and is merely a glue board with the sex pheromone pill that is placed inside. Each trap lasts about one month and must be replaced. Monitoring moths will give you a better understanding of how heavy your infestations is. Total elimination is not possible with pheromone based monitoring traps because egg laying females will not enter the traps. However, they are necessary before, during, and after treatment to enhance Indian meal moth management and determine if there is an ongoing infestation.

Insecticides should only be used after careful review of the product label and all materials should be taken out before the area is treated. Aerosol sprays (CB-80 EXTRA565 PLUS XLO) can be used for crack and crevice treatment in the pantry. Corner linings and baseboards should be sprayed thoroughly. After treatment, the treated area should be left alone to dry (2-3 hours) and there is about a 2-4 week residual and the area should be treated again. You should never apply the insecticide directly onto food, food preparation surfaces, or around food utensils.

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    we are having a problem with indian meal moths in the pantry. We have cleaned everything out twice and thrown away all opened food twice, but they keep coming back. Some have now made it out of the pantry and we find stragglers in other rooms. We haven’t found a nest of any kind. Is it possible they could have a nest inside the pantry wall? how do you recommend we get rid of them?

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    It is possible that they crawl inside the cracks and lay eggs there.
    However, Indian Meal Moths would normallu lay eggs inside the grain.
    So when you clean out your pantry, it would remove all the eggs that were present.
    Although technically they may nest inside the wall voids, the probability of it is low.

    I think it’s more probable that remaining ones have laid new eggs in the grain.
    What you want to do is use pheromone traps. You can use any one of 4 ALLURE MOTH TRAP, X Lure RTU Combo Trap, or Pantry Patrol.

    These traps will lure the male moths, and that will stop them from reproducing inside your pantry.
    You can also use Masterline Bifenthrin 7.9. You would have to clean out your pantry first to apply the mixture,
    and after 2-3 hours, when the product is completely dried, vacuum the area and you will be able to stock up your food items back into it.

    I would spray the Masterline Bifenthrin diluted with water inside the pantry and place the traps inside.

    Let us know if you have more questions.

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    my daughter has cleaned,removed all food, removed the shelves, had two different companies come to use chemicals and today we found two adults….she has used traps also.Any other ideas?

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    Hi Jan,

    How long has the infestation been around since the treatments have been done? It seems that you have taken all the measures of treatment that are effective towards the control of indian meal moths. If you haven’t yet used traps with pheromones you may want to try pheromone moth traps which have always showed better results compared to regular traps. Hang in there a little longer and the insecticide that the pest control companies have sprayed should begin to work because generally the sprays are delay kill pesticides. >

  5. Patricia Trainor
    Thursday, 7. July 2011 14:19
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    I have two cats and I have yet to have gotten ridden of the indian meal moths. I have had my apartment exterminated twice and still are unable to get rid of them. I would like to try something else that would help to eliminate them and would not be harmful to my cats. I am also having my apartment exterminated again. I can not seem to find the source.

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    Hi Patricia,
    If an exterminator has already come by twice and the Indian meal moths STILL aren’t gone, you are probably leaving food around somewhere that you might not be aware of. As I mentioned in the article, anything and EVERYTHING (food items) in your pantry should be enclosed in sealed, thick, and air-tight containers. Any possible food sources anywhere near the pantry or area of infestation should also be cleaned up. I also want to let you know that cat food is a potential food source for the moths. You should inspect the cat food to make sure there are no larvae or moths in it. If there aren’t, seal the bag of cat food in an air-tight and thick container as well. Once you have eliminated all of these possible food sources, you should see the moth infestation go down. Don’t forget to try out some moth pheromone traps or aerosol sprays as well!

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    We moved into a new house several months ago (in the fall) and as soon as the weather got warm, we realized the house was/is infested with Indian Meal Moths. We called in a pest control company who come routinely as needed and they are simply baffled as to where the moths are coming from. Every night we kill approximately 10 of them always around 10pm in our front office. There is no food in this room nor have we ever brought food into this room. In fact, the room is practically sparse except for a desk and a cabinet. We find the occasional moth in another room…but hardly ever outside of the office. We did at one point see a couple in the pantry and we did a VERY thorough cleaning of the kitchen. We moved and cleaned under appliances, vacuumed everything, scrubbed walls, etc. We found evidence that there had been some larvae under the fridge (who knows for how long!) and as I said, REALLY cleaned this space. We hardly have any food in the kitchen but inspected everything that we have. Definitely no sources there…. but the thing that continues to stump us is that the pantry/kitchen is nowhere near the office and the office room seems to be infested with adult moths. We went into the basement and flashed a flashlight under the floor boards….but with the insulation down there, it’s really hard to see if there’s anything there. The exterminator claims he saw no signs that mice have ever been in this house (I had a theory that perhaps a mouse had brought food up into the rafters of the basement and the moths were coming from there). So…my question is this – if there is absolutely no visible food source in a room (without a doubt) and that is the room with all of the activity, where could the moths be coming from? And if the pest control professional can’t find a source (and we can’t either) how effective will lure traps and spray be?? When he sprays, it seems to only work for the day…we find a bunch of dead moths in that room, and then it’s right back to us killing 10 moths a night. Sorry for the long message….but I know how important it is to find a source and we are going a bit mad here! Any help would be appreciated! Thanks!!

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    Wow, that sounds like one heck of a situation there. Well, you basically covered everything I would tell you about treating for these moths and you even called in an exterminator, so I’m a bit baffled as to what I can say. The only thing I can recommend to you at this point is either a pheromone trap or light trap. The pheromone traps will lure in adult male moths so that the numbers die down and the moths can’t reproduce anymore. The light traps will hopefully kill both sexes of moths and control their population a bit. Aside from these options, I’m afraid that you’ll have to continue to search for a source and stay tidy. Don’t forget to seal all food products too! Let me know if you find where all these moths are coming from and, most importantly, good luck!

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    Thanks, Emily! My next step was to ask the exterminator to lay down some pheromone traps in the insulation up in the floor boards under the office room to test out my theory about some sort of unusual food source being up there. If that’s not the source, then they must be appearing out of thin air. There’s only 2 pieces of furniture in there, the floor is clean as anything, the walls are clean and there is no sign of webbing….it’s quite a mystery! I will definitely fill you in once we figure it out! Thanks again for your response…and I will look into those light traps.

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    Jennifer, your story is an exact replica of mine. I moved into a house 6 months ago and have had this infestation since day one. For the first few months I battled them hard in the cabinet area of the kitchen. They were constantly around there, but never in any of the food. We had every morsel of food sealed tight or in the refrigerator so could not figure out where the heck these things were getting their food source. We also think we had a mouse that would come in during the winter, as we heard noises in the ceiling above the basement and would occasionally find little pieces of food magically left behind in the kitchen at night. After months of pheromone traps in the kitchen, the moths are 100% gone there…but they have now miraculously relocated into my BASEMENT!! I cannot find a source in the basement for my life.. There is ZERO food down there. But, there are a few wall openings behind a gas meter and in the utility room that lead up into the ceiling (where we heard the mouse). I have major suspicion that the mouse left food remnants in that ceiling and that has become the moths new source of life. They must be flying out into my basement through those openings. Very very very frustrating experience to say the least. All I can do is plant dozens of pheromone traps in my basement. Every day, I find 4 or 5 of these things in them!!

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    Hi Bill,
    I’m sorry to hear that you’re having trouble finding the source of your infestation as well. I hope both you and Jennifer are both faring well against these crazy bugs. However, your situation is a bit more interesting, since you have noticed those openings in the basement. You might want to try applying a dust insecticide in and around those openings in your basement and caulk/seal them so no possible moths can exit. Now, I don’t know if this will help because it might not be where the moths are coming into your house, but at the very least it will hopefully give you (some) peace of mind. Keep sticking with those pheromone traps like you’ve been doing and I hope the moths eventually disappear for you!

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    We moved into our house (about 130 years old) in March, but only in the past week have we noticed these moths in the house. Weird thing is, they seem to always be in pairs and they are in EVERY room. Kitchen, kill two; family room, kill two; master bedroom, kill two; master bathroom, kill two; office, kill two; parlor, kill two; then sleep for the night and do it again the next day. Actually haven’t seen them around the kitchen for a few days. I can’t seem to find any evidence of eggs or cocoons, just the small adult moths two at a time. First floor, second floor, third floor (it’s a townhouse). Could they be laying eggs in plant soil or do they just like foodstuffs? I will do a thorough cleanout and inspection of the pantry but I’m baffled.

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    Hi John,
    Sounds like the best way to get rid of these moth couples is to break them up (haha, bad joke, I know)! Try using any of our pheromone traps for the moths you’re seeing and placing them in the rooms where you see them. Hopefully, all the male moths will be stuck to the glue traps so that the females can’t reproduce. Indian meal moths are attracted to grains and other staple pantry foods, so either seal those tightly in airtight, thick plastic or glass containers. They will also lay eggs and nest in food items, so make sure to thoroughly clean out and inspect your pantry. Good luck getting rid of the moths!

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    About two weeks ago I started to see little cocoons along the space where the walls meet the ceiling in my kitchen. I remembered seeing a moth flying around the previous night in the kitchen, so I did some research and figured it must be a pantry moth infestation. I live with a few roommates and went through our very small kitchen cabinet where we keep dry goods and found the source right away. I zip lock bag filled with grains ripped open and spilled over on the top cabinet- there were tons of larvae in there. We threw EVERYTHING out. There were larvae in other containers as well so everything went in the garbage- even the shelves in the cabinet! We sprayed and wiped everything down with Windex and even emptied all the plates and bowls from the cabinet right beside the food storage cabinet and sprayed that down too with Windex. It’s been a week since the big clean up- there is no food in the cabinets- I recently bought coffee and sugar and salt and immediately emptied them into mason jars and threw the boxes out. I’ve stored those on a shelf in the kitchen, not in the cabinet. I still am seeing adult moths on the ceiling in the kitchen, and even on the ceiling in the hallway that leads into the kitchen. Strange thing is, I’ve been checking the cabinet where the food used to be and I never see any moths in that one. But the cabinet that’s adjoined to it (with the plates and bowls) have moths just hanging out on the ceiling of the inside of the cabinet almost every time I open it. When we did the clean up we rewashed ALL of the dishes that were in there. I bought two Safer traps which haven’t caught anything so I ordered Catchmaster traps online and am waiting for them to come in. Is it normal a few weeks following a clean up to continue to see adult moths around? I usually kill about 10-15 a day. I haven’t seen any larvae which is a good sign I guess, but why then are the adults still around? Is it possible they are nesting behind the cabinet or in the cracks? This is such a hard infestation to kick!

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    Hello Lynn! Keep those traps up!! :) The Catchmaster Moth Traps that you have ordered are great traps that use Pheromone based attractants. The adults and larvae will not be in the cracks and crevices, but the eggs might be. Once they hatch, the larvae travel to their food source, so you will need to regularly check your pantry foods. If you would like a spray, 565 Plus XLO is a superb spray for pantry moths. However, remember that when you are using a spray around food materials, all foods must be put away and covered or thrown away. Pantry moth infestations are a pain but its not impossible. Just be consistent with replacing traps and if you are using the aerosol, you will have to spray every week to two weeks depending on the size of your infestation. Good Luck! :D

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    Will the female lay her eggs on ANYTHING? I was under the impression that they will only lay eggs on a food source. We had/have an infestation of Indian Meal Moths that we first noticed about 3 weeks ago when I went to fill the cat feeder container that is on the floor of the pantry.It has been there for the 23 yrs. that we have lived in this house.We have never had a problem before this. When I took the bottom off, I first noticed a good deal of white, sticky, web-like material. Then upon further evaluation I saw at least 12-15 little wormies in the bottom of the feeder. I have severe arachnophobia, this is not fun at all. Anyway, I finally got the exterminator here on 10/12/11. I was given very little information as to what I could/could not do after the extermination. All I was told was that I could wipe down the counter tops & kitchen table.Before the exterminator came, I was told that it was OK to put all cabinet stuff (dishes, glasses, pans,etc…) in the Dining Room, which is about 4 ft. from the pantry. Well, I am still finding live moths in the pantry AND in the Dining Room. This is almost 7 days after the exterminator was here. I just killed one in the DR this AM. Bottom line……If they were females (can’t tell one from the other), would they lay eggs on anything but food? My concern is; now do I have to wash all items in the DR before returning them to the cabinets?
    BTW: I am getting all my money back from the exterminator and they are coming tomorrow to hang the Pheromone Strips

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    Hello Ellen. The female Indian meal moths will lay her eggs on or near the food or other potential food areas but not just anywhere. As for the infestation in the dining room, are you seeing the adults or the larvae? If you are seeing larvae, they may be coming from eggs that have hatched. The eggs could have been on the plates that were carried to the dining room. It is always better to be safe than sorry to wash all items before returning them to the cabinets. The traps are going to be highly effective in getting rid of the moths. Actually, pheromones may only attract one sex, but in that sense, they are unable to reproduce and will dramatically decrease the number in the population. If you would like, you can look on our site for some aerosols to kill them on contact. 565 Plus XLO actually provides a short residual. If you have any other questions, you can always give us a call at 1-800-788-4142, email us, or post again on our blog! :)

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    I have been reading and reading. We don’t have any moths, yet. We have tons of their larvae though. After setting up a trap we’ve only caught one moth, and that’s after about two weeks. Aside from throwing away all of our food, how do we get rid of the larvae? I really don’t want to wait around and pick them off one by one until their fully grown. Any suggestions? I would really like to get this fixed, my kids aren’t wanting to eat anything from our kitchen anymore.

    Thank you so much!

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    Hello Jennifer,
    Unfortunately, since larvae are the ones that actually infest the food or the stored goods, you do need to get rid of all contaminated food materials that are in your pantry. Also, using an insecticide like 565 Plus XLO on the shelves and cracks and crevices will prove to be effective. You do need to take all food supplies and other materials of the pantry when you are treating for this. Spray the shelves and the cracks and crevices on the corners of each wall. You will need to apply the aerosol every two weeks. Thoroughness and consistency is the most important parts of pest control. I hope this helped! If you have any other questions, feel free to contact us here at Pest Mall again! :)

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    Can these larvae get into sealed bags of products like potato chip and pretzel bags? I have so much unopened boxed and bagged cereal, pastas, cake mixes and the like that are not near where I found the initial infestation(that area has been completely cleaned and everything thrown out and I bought the pheremone traps).I haven’t seen any moths lately but I think the ones I saw laid the eggs and died off, and now the eggs hatched into the larvae. I have different areas in my house with food products, and while I don’t see anything in these other areas at this time, I have a pantry about 10 feet from the infested one that has loads of snack foods and boxed snack bags of chips, cookies and such that I use for my children’s school lunches. I’m terrified that these larvae may have burrowed into these sealed bags and my kids will eat them. I also don’t want to just randomly throw out everthing if I don’t need to-I’d be throwing out possibly hundreds of dollars of food. Could these larvae get into these products-will they stay near the source of the infestation as long as there is a food source for them, or will they “wander away” and look for other food sources anyway? Again, I haven’t seen any anywhere else yet, but I’m in a panic and don’t know what I should do with all my food products that I have in other pantries of my house. Since the larvae can’t reproduce until they mature into moths, and if I have the traps and don’t see moths anymore, could it be that the problem would come under control somewhat easily? I really can’t stand these things, and like Jennifer said my kids (and myself and husband for that matter)don’t even want to eat anything at home anymore. When the moths lay the eggs do they do so in one area, or move around and lay eggs in various spots? We only saw a few moths initially, and I haven’t seen any more larvae in the pantry that was infested, so I’m hoping beyond all hope that I caught this relatively quickly. If I decide to buy a chemical spray, what do you recommend and where would I get it from? Thanks for any advice that you can give me.

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    Hi Melinda.

    Yea, unfortunately, the most stressful part about this whole pantry moth ordeal is that they infest our food. I love food, hate bugs. It’s terrible. Another unfortunate problem is that larvae can get into boxes. They can’t get into air-tight sealed packages, but they can get into boxes of food materials or even just zip-lock bags if they are sealed incorrectly. I don’t think the moths will particularly infest snack foods. They are dry but the sugar content is outrageous in some snack foods. You’ll really find those moths in dried foods like grains or flour and etc. Some of the most favored foods by Indian Meal Moths are foods such as coarsely ground grain, cereal products, dried fruits, nuts, powdered milk, spices, hot pepper flakes, pet food and bird seeds. You’ll have to inspect for webbing or signs of larvae in the food. It’s frustrating though because although they don’t lay eggs just anywhere, they don’t have a particular spot where they will keep laying their eggs either. They do lay their eggs close to the food source though. You won’t see an Indian Meal moth infestation in your bedroom for sure. Keeping traps up will definitely help with the population. Eventually, you won’t have enough adults to mate and hopefully that will eliminate the problem altogether. If you would like to use a spray, we recommend 565 Plus XLO. Of course, you will need to remove the contents from the pantry as you treat. You can wait till the treated areas are completely dry to replace those materials. You really want to target the tight areas like corners, especially on the floor and on the shelves. You don’t need to to an entire surface but really target the corners like where each side of the wall meets and where the floor meets the walls. Likewise, target the areas where the shelves meet the walls as well. I hope that helped. If you have any other questions, you can always feel free to contact us again. We’ll try to help in the best way that we can!

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    To make a long story short, we notice no moths for about 4 days, then all of a sudden we kill 4-5 moths in one day. Then again, no moths seen for another 4 days, then we kill 4-5 in one day. ALL my food and spices have been thrown out (hundreds of dollars down the drain but I didn’t want to take a chance) and ALL my kitchen cabinets are bare. Everything is sitting in my dining room. The exterminator came twice and sadly, we killed 3 last night. What are we doing wrong? How do I know if these moths are new ones or old ones or if there are hidden eggs still lying around (even though, i repeat, we have NO MORE DRIED FOOD left in our house) PLEASE HELP!!

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    Hey Laura,
    Giving that the weather this year has been crazy, this really means only one thing in our industry – that the behavior of bugs are going to drastically be abnormal as well. So usually, when they are very active in the early summer and late spring, it seems that bugs are coming out a little bit early, or maybe not when it gets cold, and then again when it warms up. Unfortunately, since we have no way of controlling that, we cannot actually predict when they are going to reappear, but you can try to control them by thoroughly cleaning (which seems like you have, but continue to vacuum regularly) and by applying a residual insecticide. Something like Lambdastar 9.7 is very effective for long term control. Just make sure that all products are removed from the areas that you are trying to treat and it is only okay to reenter after the treated area has completely dry. You want to make sure and target tight areas like cracks and crevices along the corners and on shelves as well as the base boards. Hope that helped a little bit, but if you have any questions, feel free to give us a call at 1-800-788-4142.

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    I have had moths for about a year now. I am going absolutely crazy, they are in every room of my house. I have zero food on my counters or in my pantries. I keep everything in the freezer and fridge. This keeps my shopping to a limit. I find I have to shop daily for my food to prevent any food on counters or in the house. Im also seeing a cycle. I think I finally got rid of the damn things and a week later I see 1 then for a week I see them daily maybe 2-5. the traps are full. Then I wont see them again for a week and again they are everywhere. I am spending SO much money on every trap on the market. The exterminator came twice. As I type this I see them flying around the tv and the couch. Please Help.. your traps arent working I emptied the cabinets and sprayed and bombed and I still have moths.I even bought a new vacuum cleaner. So my question is if I cant get rid of them with every product what do I do..PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!

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    Hi Kathy,

    That’s a difficult question. Sometimes, the key to using products is to follow every step very carefully. Sometimes when using traps, people may place too many traps out on one floor, which can over saturate an area with pheromones. When using insecticides, often times, it is a misuse problem. Spraying or bombing too much may just push them back into a different area until the residual has gone. Also, bombs have just a short residual and will not be effective for long term use. This is the same for pressurized aerosol sprays. If you have not tried residual concentrate sprays, we suggest you do so. Cy-Kick CS or Suspend SC are great residual products. If you have any questions, feel free to call us at 1-800-788-4142.

    Best Regards,
    PestMall

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    I am on year 3 with indian meal moths. They were in our pantry and I threw everything out and cleaned with bleach. Now they are in our attic and chimney and come in our house at dusk. They are also in our garage and I put a trap in the closet where our furnace is in the garage and that has captured quite a few. We had a chimney sweep come out and clean and they didn’t find any food sources. I keep a trap in the fireplace and after a few days it will be full. There is only one area that is accessible in our attic and the traps will have some in them but not tons. After reading this I know we have too many traps up there. We have had 3 exterminators out and they are baffled. The other day I remembered that we had a new air conditioning and furnace system put in about the time the moth problem started. I spend most days cleaning and walking around the house looking for stray moths. Some nights I go to bed in tears. Thanks goodness for electric fly swatters! Any suggestions??

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    Hi Jane,
    It sounds like so far, you are doing everything right. Have you tried to use any insecticides? I know many people try to stay away from insecticides, but sometimes, it is necessary. Fortunately, there are some insecticides that are milder than others and use more “natural” active ingredients like Pro Citra and 565 Plus XLO. Of course, we do not recommend applying any insecticides in the fireplace area as it is potentially very harmful. You can use concentrate insecticides outside in the garage or around the perimeter and use the aerosols like Pro Citra or 565 Plus XLO inside. You can spray the cracks and crevices in the pantry or where you are really seeing them the most. When you are using the insecticides inside, make sure that all areas are completely dry and it will be safe for reentry. You may have some mechanical or structural issues that you should get inspected and fixed. Cracks and crevices in the structure can be entry points for not only moths, but almost all other insect pests as well. If you had a new air conditioning unit and furnace system installed, you should definitely have the entry points or utility lines checked out. Lastly, could it possibly be a mis-identification issue? It could be a different type of moth you are dealing with and not the Indian Meal Moth, which may be why you are unable to fully eradicate the problem. The traps you use may be specific to pantry moths, but if you have an outdoor moth problem for example, then those traps well be deemed useless. I hope that helped you! If you have any other questions though, please don’t hesitate to ask or give us a call at 1-800-788-4142.

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    We are also on year 3 of the moths. We seemed to get it somewhat under control last year with the Catchmaster traps, but this year our attic is infested (really badly) It only started when the weather gets hot and humid. I placed 4 traps in the attic and they were all filled with at least 40-50 bugs on each. I changed them and they are filled again. The attic is filled with old clothes, paperwork, books and furniture – All the websites say “find the source” but I cant figure out what the source is in the attic. Please help!

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    Hi Pat,
    It seems like you may have a structural issue here. They might be reentering the premises easily because of a crack or crevice or even the ventilation may have openings that are entry points for the moths. You definitely need to get an inspection for repair. The stacks of papers and books in boxes all provide hiding spaces or nesting reproduction sites. Traps are good to use continuously but for an infestation that size, you may want to consider using insecticides in conjunction with the traps. Speckoz Fogger is a bomb that you can set off in the attic and it will provide an instant knockdown for the ones that comes in contact with, which means it will be a good clean out type of product. After that you can spray Suspend SC on surfaces, in the cracks and crevices in the attic, along the frames and etc. and apply Suspend once every 2 months. When the infestation begins to clear out, you will want to make sure you are only setting about 1-2 traps so that you do not oversaturate the area with pheromones. When an oversaturation of pheromones occurs, they are unable to make out where the source of the pheromones are and will not be able to find the traps. I hope that helped! :)

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    I am having a problem with moths as well. Someone PLEASE Shed some light on my situation. We have had a moth problem for some time now. We cleaned everything set traps and put everything in the air tight containers. The problem I am having now is I am trapping moths but not seeing them anywhere else. No webbing in food or cabinets, no larve. I am extremely fusterated and can’t figure out where the source is. If they are not in my cabinets, where are they. Behind cabinets, light fixtures?? Any info would be great. We want to use pesticides as a last resort.

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    Hi Traci,
    I wonder if you have applied any insecticides or sprays yet. If you haven’t, we recommend removing all the items in the pantry and treating the corners, shelves, and baseboards of the pantry with 565 Plus XLO. If it is a pantry moth issue, the source would not be behind the light fixtures or cabinets usually. We also recommend pheromone based glue traps. Only one per floor is needed. If more than 1 or 2 is set per floor, you might over-saturate the area with pheromones and they will not be attracted to the glue trap because they will not know where the source of the pheromone is coming from. If you have any other questions, feel free to call us at 1-800-788-4142.

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    Sunny, Thank You for your reply. we are using the pheromone traps but will try the 565 XLO as well. Thx again.

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    We finally had a chance to take covers off of ac unit and didn’t find any moths. My husband looked in the drain where the condensate goes and there was a larva. He poured bleach down the drain. Is there anything else we can do? We have a trap in that closet and one in the garage. I can’t imagine that this would be the only source for our infestation but at least we found something!! Thanks!!

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    We finally got a chance to take doors off of a/c unit and inspect but we only found 1 dead moth. My husband then looked in the drain where the condensate drains to and there was 1 larva. He poured bleach down the drain. Is there anything else we can do? We have a sticky trap in the closet. We can’t imagine that this is the only source for our infestation but at least we found something!

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    After throwing every thing away 4times was not happy so on the 4th time we sprayed the pantry with 10mls of Bifenthrim per litre of water.This gave a total wipe out of moths. We now keep 3 moth traps in pantry plus a 6watt blue insect light in kitchen and now no more trouble thank god. Hope this info helps some one else.

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    Hi John,
    Thanks for the input. Just a reminder that you are probably already aware of is to follow the product label thoroughly and carefully when dealing with insecticides. Remember to keep all dilutions rates as accurate as possible and to review the label before applying anything. Good luck!

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    Hello Everyone,

    This is directed at all the people that have emptied out their cabinets yet are still seeing moths. I had the exact same problem with these things and have had multiple pest control companies come out to my place and assess and “treat” the problem. They said the same thing that the source is in the food (rice, cereal, grain, etc). It is true I found
    Moths in almost everything ranging from
    Pancake mix, to the inside paper labels of canned food, to the INSIDE of SEALED UNOPENED top ramen and other completely sealed unopened items. Anyways, after throwing away everything I started seeing a reappearance a month later or so, even with no food at all in my pantry. I did a closer inspection and noticed egg sacks EVERYWHERE, all along the edges of the cabinets on the inside. This was literally in every cabinet in my kitchen (over 8 cabinets). I don’t know how I never saw them nor did both pest control companies, however the point of the story is that they DON’T lay eggs only in food sources, they DO lay in corners, edges, and crevices. Thus I conclude that they can very well be inside your walls.

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    Hi Ben,
    It is true that they don’t lay eggs in the food source. They lay eggs closeby but travel to the food during larva stage to develop and feed. That is why we recommend traps for adults and insecticides to apply around cracks and crevices on shelves and in corners of the pantry. If you have any questions, feel free to let us know! :)

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    Ben

    I have had these nasty critters for ~five years now. I have found them on paper,pkgs, ceilings, e v e r y w h e r e !!!!!
    I have thrown more clothes away…. Tried to wash a few favorite pcs of clothing in every detergent I had to no avail!!!! There were so many stuck to my white raincoat that they looked like polka dots. I can’t open a book without seeing six or more glued in the crevices. I don’t dare eat anything in the dark for fear of worms, nats, webs, etc. This is beyond discouraging!!! I have had to throw so much out… I just don’t know what to do… What is the solution (if there is one)?!

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    Hi Maryska,
    Indian Meal Moths are primarily pantry pests and will infest stored foods. We do not believe what you have are Indian Meal Moths from what you tell us about them infesting your clothes so frequently. You may be dealing a clothes moth infestation? We recommend getting a sample identified by a professional pest control management company and you will be able to better treat your home. You may not be able to get rid of them because you are targeting the wrong pest. If you have any further questions or comments, please feel free to contact us again.

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    Wow!
    I can’t believe what a problem these pests can be, but i’m glad that I found this site. Misery loves company.
    I have had pantry moths for close to a year now. They started in some bird seed that we had in a sunroom. They no longer have a food source, but we keep getting moths! I know they can live for up to 300 days, but this is getting ridiculous! I have been very lucky that they have not infested our kitchen, as I have been diligent in keeping the sliding door to the sunroom closed all year. I have been using moth traps, and they have been catching the males for at least 6 months now (changing them every month). My question is, is it possible for eggs to become larvae without a food source?

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    Hi Diane,
    Yes, of course it is possible. We recommend using 565 Plus XLO in conjunction with the traps. It sounds like the traps are something that you should keep using. Spray the 565 every week in corners around the baseboards and etc.

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    Hello PestMall,

    I need some help. I’ve thrown EVERYTHING out of my kitchen, sprayed all cracks in entire kitchen with 565 XLO plus, had Orkin out here three times, and I still can’t seem to get rid of my meal moth infestation. Everyday when I wake up and return home after a few hours, I have to get out the shopvac and vacuum up about 5-8 of them. I’m positive I have no food sources for them still.

    I have also setup Catchmaster meal moth traps, and they catch a few a day, but many moths don’t go to them. They just sit on cabinets and wall waiting until I grab the shopvac and get them sucked up.

    Any ideas on what to do?

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    Hi Ash,
    Cool name by the way :) 565 Plus XLO is a great product for beetles and moths. You want to make sure that all food products that could potentially be infested is thrown out in a sealable bag. We recommend using this time to clean out the pantry and apply the 565 Plus XLO on all cracks, crevices, and corners. It cannot be applied as a broadcast spray, but you can treat all the corners along the floor and shelves in the pantry. Wait till all treated areas are dry before you reenter that area. You should continue this type of application at least twice a month. If the Catchmaster Meal Moth Traps are not working, we recommend using a different brand of traps. The 4 Allure Moth Traps are great traps to use for Indian Meal Moths as well as other pantry moths. Keep in mind that you don’t want to oversaturate an area with pheromones so you want to only place just up to 2 per space. If you happen to oversaturate a given area with pheromones, the moths will have a difficult time finding the traps and therefore, the traps will be ineffective. If you have any further questions or comments, feel free to let us know.

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    We moved into my cousin’s apartment 2 months ago. When we moved in, I cleaned all of the kitchen cabinets and found a dead moth in one, I didnt think anything of it. Then I started seeing a moth pop up on the hallway wall, family room, bathroom, in the bedroom closet, bedroom wall and even in our BED! It has been two months now and I find a moth every other day or so.

    I cleaned out the food cabinet and threw a lot away and put items in plastic bags, but didnt see any moths or eggs.

    In our closet I noticed some of my clothes had holes in them. But I didnt find any eggs or larvae etc. The carpet in the place is about 5 years old and it looks worn, so I am wondering if they are coming from there.Although the day we moved into the apartment my cousin had it steamcleaned.

    I bought cedar and pheremone traps but the traps didnt catch anything.Finally I called an exterminator. He DIDN’T do a thorough inspection but just glanced around and said he didnt know where they were coming from and he sprayed the baseboards in the whole apartment.

    I showed him a few of the moths I had caught and saved and he said they looked like both clothes mothes and pantry moths. In addition to spraying the baseboards, he set two of his own traps, one in the kitchen and one in my closet, both are placed up high.

    It’s been three days since the exterminator and I have found three alive moths. And there is nothing in the traps! Where are they coming from?!?!! Why aren’t they going in the traps? I spent over $400 on laundry and dry cleaning and I am scared to have any clothes in the apartment. I feel like I will never get rid of these moths and the worst part is not knowing where they are coming from.

    One other thing to note other than the carpet, is that there are a lot of gaps and cracks and holes in the apartment. There are so many it would be impossible to fill them all. Like above all the kitchen cabinets there are gaps, there is a huge gap on the side of the fridge and then little holes and cracks by the baseboard. The building is from the 1970s I believe.

    I feel helpless and do not know what to do.
    I might just move out and sell every single thing I own. I can’t take this anymore.
    Please any advice would help!

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    Hi Julia,
    Wow, that sounds really difficult to handle. Unfortunately, identification is something we cannot do without a picture of the moth but we will try the best we can to help you control them. There are a few this that I would like to address here. First, I want to address the traps. I am not sure how many you initially put out but if they were pheromone traps, you may have over-saturated a room with pheromones by setting too many traps in a small space. When over-saturation of the pheromone occurs, the moths can’t follow the pheromone bait and find the trap. In other words, if the whole room is just filled with the pheromone, the moths get confused and just cannot find the traps. That may be a reason as to why you have not been successful in trapping the moths. Depending on the trap, it may only require one per floor. We recommend using traps, because this is the best way to control the reproduction of the moths and it is also the safest method of control. Just make sure to read the label and find out how many you should put out per sq. footage. The second thing I want to talk about are the cracks and crevices. You did say that it was an apartment. The tricky thing about apartments are the joined units. Sometimes, your living space may not have been infested at all initially, but as a result of your neighbors having infestations, the pests have found a way to make it into your home and of course, they found a way by those cracks and crevices. If you have cracks around your windows and door, those are also potential entry points. You can try to apply a very long residual insecticide inside the wall voids. Typically, a dust insecticide will be used for inaccessible areas like the wall void or under and behind large furniture. Delta dust or Drione Dust can be used. Always apply dust where there is no traffic because you do not want the dust insecticide to agitated, float up into the air and be inhaled. Lastly, I wonder what type of insecticide the exterminator used and really how he applied it and to what areas of the home he applied it to other than the base boards of the apartment. We recommend a general product like Suspend SC. It has a long residual indoors and is a broad spectrum insecticide that will help you maintain pest control. Usually, it is applied around the baseboards, under the sinks, behind the toilets, around window sills and door frames. You also want to try and get those cracks and crevices as best as you can. Ultimately, we cannot tell you exactly where to apply the products because we are unable to identify the pest, but hopefully these things helped you kind of gain a better understanding of treatment. If you have any further questions or comments, please feel free to contact us again.

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    has any 1 ever seen moth larve on the ceiling of their home?

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    Hi Sandra,
    I’m not sure if moth larvae would be on the ceiling of the room, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it possible. You should definitely get the pest identified and see what the source is before you start the treatment for eradication. Treatment will be more effective if you have the correct identification. If you have any further questions or comments, please feel free to contact us again.

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    I too found indian meal moths in my dining room. I eventually discovered the source was a dried floral arrangement I had brought. Somehow they were feeding on it.

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    Found 2 meal moth larvae in stuck in between fabrics in my daughters mattress! I am officially grossed out!!! Anyone else have that problem? No where else in the house, and her room is on the 3rd floor. It makes no sense to me, other than a moth laying eggs in her bed?!?! I found them because my children got sick, so I drenched their beds in citrus lysol. The worms acted like they wanted to get away but died in the process. I am still just really grossed out!!!

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    Hi Nicole,
    You’re right, it is strange that a meal moth infestation will occur in your daughter’s bed…she’s not sneaking snack upstairs is she? :D But, you will want to get it thoroughly cleaned. I don’t know how safe it is to treat the mattresses with Lysol, instead you may want to use some traps or controlled aerosol insecticides that will treat those tight cracks and crevices. If you have any questions that our representatives can help you with, feel free to call us at 1-800-788-4142.

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    I discovered meal moth larvae and cocoons al in my bedroom head board which has several drawers and compartments. They are in the drawers on papers in jewelry boxes on hats inside books and.envelopes in picture frames sitting on dresser. I lysol wiped and.sprayed vacuumed. Found tne source a jar of trail mix threw it out. Can tjey or will they be in medicine bottles that are in my dresser? Im so grossed.out that I dont want to sleep in my room now.

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    They look likesmall white worms with a red.head

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    Hi Cyndi,
    Since medicine bottles are sealed tightly and the medication will most likely not be a valid food source for them, I doubt that they will infest the medicine bottles. Getting rid of the trail mix was very wise to do. As long as you are thoroughly cleaning, it should not be a persisting problem, but if you seem to find more, you may want to consider an insecticide treatment. We recommend using 565 Plus XLO in cracks and crevices. Keep in mind that 565 Plus XLO cannot be broadcast applied and must completely dry before you come in contact with the treated area again.

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    We found Indian Meal Moths in the food in our cabinets after we had been gone on vacation for a week. We threw out any food source in our entire kitchen that wasn’t in the refridgerator or freezer. I’ve read on the life cycle of these critters and am hoping we are seeing the end to their existence in our kitchen, but want to make sure.

    We are now catching/killing 5-8 months a day near the cabinet where the food was. They seem “drugged” almost as I had bleached the shelves and used a spray (Hot Shot) in the cracks of the cabinets and near the wall where the cabinets meet the wall. However, I want to make sure we are nearing the end of these pests. We do not have food out anymore and have thrown out any cardboard boxed containing appliances or dishes they could be in. We also use a pheremone trap in the cabinet (have yet to catch one in there).Is there anything else we can do at this point? Can they survive behind the cabinets in the glue that holds the cabinets together?

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    Hi Jessica,
    It sounds like you are making all the right moves. Hot Shot is something that we do not carry, so we do not have adequate information on the product, but if it is working for you, keep using it. If it doesn’t, perhaps the only thing I can suggest is to upgrade to a professional grade product like 565 Plus XLO. If you have any other questions or concerns, feel free to contact us again.

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    Thank you for the help. Quick question…can they meaning the moths, their larvae and the worms, live in the glue that connects our cabinets?

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    I had a problem with these moths in my pantry. I took everything out of the cabinets and still they were here. I bought raid house and rden. I sprayed them, instant kill. But they were still around. I examined everything closely. I threw out all the food, even boxes of yes bags. They were attached to the cardboard, tea bags. I suggest throwing out any aluminum foil, plastic wrap,they were attached to their box and roll. Clean any appliances, they were in my blender, coffee pot s and pans. Clean out everything. They hide in spots unimaginable. I even put everything in Ziploc. 2 Weeks moth free and I pray gone for good.

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    I have had a problem with these moths since I moved into a new apartment. We had the exterminator come out and do a treatment and we threw away all grainy food, or put it into sealed containers. On Tuesday, it will be a week since the treatment. We hadn’t seen any adults for about 5 days but today we have killed 3. Is this normal? Should I contact the company for another treatment? Thanks.

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    Hi Sarah,
    Since I am not sure what kind of treatment the professional did or what kind of steps the professional has took, I’m not sure what I can really tell you. However, sometimes, if the adults have not come in contact with the treatment yet, it is possible for them to still be flying around. Also, if the moth has come out of the pupae stage and into complete development, this can also count for an ongoing moth presence in the home. With all that said, the professional technician should have treated such target areas as corners, baseboards, and around the pantry and kitchen (with all precautions) and etc. He is not required to set out traps, but traps are a good way to control male adult moths and ultimately, reduce reproduction. If you have any further questions or comments, please feel free to contact us again.

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    We have also been struggling with this problem since the fall of 2012. They infested a linen closet after we left an infected bag of bird feed in there. We’ve cleaned everything out rigourously, and for a while in January 2013, we thought we were done as we’d not seen any for a while (couple of weeks), and then all of a sudden they started up again. They seem to still be coming from the closet, but there is no food anymore, so what are they feeding on? The closet is still completely empty, so is it possible these are just some of the leftover eggs/larva which are hatching now after a period of slow down due to the cold? Since they have no food source, can we expect that they will starve to death and disappear or should we be using a more aggressive method of extermination?

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    Hi Dan,

    We recommend treating the area with 565 Plus XLO. All contents from the pantry should be removed and all corners of the pantry and shelves should be treated with 565 Plus XLO. Keep in mind that a broadcast application is not advised and instead a focused and precise treatment of the edges and corners will be more effective. If you have any further questions or comments, please feel free to contact us again.

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    After reading MANy of these comments it sounds like many people have had much luck with these traps. My question is, will these traps help while in the meal work stage? We own a apartment complex had pigeons nesting/living in attic. Have gotten all pigeons out and found infestation of meal worms in attic, I know they live off of grain, but I also read the could have been feeding off grain in the pigeon poo. Cleaned out all insulation, sprayed pesticides, had exterminator, now warmer weather is coming around again and the worms are everywhere. I have read they can thrive on insulation, which would be the only thing that makdes sense, and they are around the perimiter of the building but on inside. coming through drop ceilings. what would you suggest? Would male traps in attic help and what else could we do , please help, looking for anything to help at this point!

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    Hi Kristy,

    The glue pheromone traps work for adult or fully matured Indian meal moths. If you have any further questions or comments, feel free to let us know.

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    So, the non of the traps you have would work for the worm stage? If there are worms though, there must be adult moths someplace, right? Would we just hang the traps in the attic and see if we catch any? Thank you for your help. I look forward to getting rid of this problem and hoping your traps can help!

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    I started seeing larvae on the counter about a week ago. One at a time, and yesterday I saw 3 so I started looking it up online. When I got home from work I emptied out the cabinets, threw out everything except canned food. I washed the pots and pans on the next door cabinet and the eating utensils in the drawers above these cabinets. The source was some flour bag I didn’t even know I had. It was in a plastic bag. I wiped the corners and edges of the cabinets. Three away the cabinet liners and have left them Empty for now and will probably leave them empty for the rest of spring and summer. I didn’t vacuum them because I don’t have a Vaccum that uses badgs and I’m scared to get them in the Vaccum and have to deal with that. I only saw a moth ONCE in the drawer above the source about 6 months ago ang just killed it but never have seen one flying around my house. I don’t plan on buying any dried foods for a while because I’m so freaked out about it. At this point my concern or question is If there are eggs and larvae still left can they survive without a food source? Maybe I should Vaccum under the fridge and stove? Can they survive on old crumbs under the appliances alone?

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    Do I need to throw out aluminum foil, plastic wrap etc?

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    Hi Karen,

    It is probably not likely to throw away those materials are these are not materials that Indian Meal Moths will infest. If you have any further questions or comments, please feel free to contact us again.

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    Hi Jeanne,

    If eggs hatch, then the larvae may be able to survive shortly without a food source. Eventually though, they will migrate towards a food source. It is recommended that you vacuum and then dispose of the bag or vacuum bin in an airtight bag. I don’t think they can survive on crumbs alone but crumbs under the appliances can lead to other infestations of different pests like roaches or ants. We recommend a short residual spray like 565 Plus XLO to spray in corners and under the appliances. If you have any further questions or comments, please feel free to contact us again.

  70. Thanks for your input
    Wednesday, 24. April 2013 12:52
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    First of all, Thank you Sunny for this page, and all the input from people, Let me explain our situation:

    About 4 months ago my mother in law left some dried nuts and fruits in one of the lower shelves of the kitchen, we didn’t think any of it as we keep things fairly clean, and long story short we were infested, we kept seeing these moths daily basis. (we have a bi level high ceiling yet small city apartment so our kitchen is open kitchen within our bedroom)

    After one week of these guys doing fly-bys one sunday I searched everywhere found a huge hive where the dried foods were (she left them in a nylon) and threw everything away, cleaned those specific shelves.

    We fairly went back to normal, but we would occasionally see one fly by maybe once every week.

    Recently I start to see one every 2 days or once a day. sometimes 2, they are mostly just sitting at a high ceiling corner, close to the open kitchen but not around directly food, I sprayed those shelves again (there is no dried food, just some rice and beans, and they seem to be not infected)

    I read every single post try to relate it to our ‘Mild’ case, my fiance is curious, after 4 months, can they still be the remainders of that huge main source that we cleaned, or simply there is another small hive, source somewhere, I did examine shelves again and cleaned them again with all purpose spray cleaner, I don’t see anythink physical, I just see moths again once a day…

    What do you suggest? I really don’t want to involve any chemicals because we can’t open our windows and our central air flow is really limited and I don’t want anything toxic in this household with no real way of air flow if you know what I mean?

    Thank you for your precious time in looking over and answering all these cases.

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    Hi Thanks for your input,

    It is possible that even though you have thrown away the original source of food, the larvae has migrated to find new sources of food. Each item in a pantry where you keep dried foods, including rice, cereal, and etc, should be inspected for possible webbing from larvae or anything like it. If you are not comfortable with chemicals, we recommend using glue traps that are pheromone based and made for pantry moths. These are prebaited glue boards that will attract the males so that reproduction is not possible and eventually get rid of the infestation. If you have any further questions or comments, please feel free to contact us again.

  72. thanks for your input
    Thursday, 25. April 2013 20:30
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    hi sunny thanks for your reply above..
    when i was waiting for your answer yesterday i went crazy and looked everywhere again. i emptied out every food. i am really sure where these buggers are, what i got suspicious about is behind the cupboard.
    now these cupboards are stick to the wall but maybe some eggs survived there? so i kind of moved the cupboard back and forth, a little space opened up behind the cupboard, so i sprayed all purpose cleaner there. when i was doing there last night i saw one come up. didnt exactly see where it flew from but i am assuming from tht general idea now i cant reach there without bracking the cupboard for some reason, and i dont want to freak out my landlord asking for his help. i on average see 2 of them mostly one when i wake up in the morning once at night.. if i set up glue traps where should i place them for my case? behind small spaces like behind the fridge ? (thats next to that cupboard so is the oven) i by the way pulled oven and fridge and cleaned everything there behind the cupboard is where i cant get to..

    and where are they getting their food source from if they are stuck there? thats what i really wonder….? is it eggs left over and they somehow surviving i wish i can locate larvea to see their route..

    these buggers…

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    Hi there, my mom had gotten an infestation of meal moths a few ml this ago and although she has been trying hasn’t been able to completely get rid of them. My sister had a hamster in our room and apparently they found their way into that and were eating it. This was in our clothes closet and some of them laid cocoons on my clothes. Recently I got married and moved into an apartment with my husband. I noticed some of these cocoons on my clothes but in the wedding chaos didnt really think anything about it until we came back from the honeymoon and I noticed a moth flying around. I immediately began searching food for infestation and haven’t found any but put all things in freezer to be safe. I also got pheromone traps (caught three over the course of a week) and killed maybe another three or four. I haven’t seen any since the last straggler I found last Friday. How long before you think I should be all clear?

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    Hi Megan,

    It depends on how well you have been taking care of the source of the problem as far as cleaning the corners and using a spray to treat the these cracks and crevices around the corners. It may take a few weeks for complete eradication. If you have any further questions or comments, please feel free to contact us again.

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    Hi.
    I had an infestation of indian meal moths last May. I had an exterminator in and did routine spraying every month and then every other month until Dec, with the allure traps to monitor the infestation in between. By Dec, they were gone and I stopped the exterminator. Just this week, I saw a bunch of moths and they seem to be coming back. Is this due to the warm weather or is it a new infestation? Do I need to call another exterminator or can I control this on my own? Thanks in advance.

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    It could be that they weren’t fully exterminated previously. You can actually exterminate the moths by simply using pheromoned moth traps . It is also important to look around your pantry and throw out any foods that may be infested.

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    Wow, I never knew this could be such a problem! We starting seeing the adult moths this past winter. I never found any webbing, larvae, etc. only adult moths. I threw everything away in my pantry, washed every surface with a bleach solution and then did the same with every cupboard and surface in my kitchen. I never found a nest or source. I threw away spices that weren’t in jars with airtight lids and wiped down each jar. Then we set the pheromone traps and caught many adults over a several week period. We gradually began using our pantry again but put food in airtight containers or in the refrigerator or freezer. We went a couple of months without seeing any moths and now they’re back again. We find a few a week but all in our kids bathroom (upstairs) and in our clothes closet and bedroom (also upstairs). There’s no food up there. Its definately the same moths What am I missing?? I haven’t used any chemicals and frankly wouldn’t even know where to begin if I did. I’m not seeing moths in my kithen or pantry area but do I need to clean it out again?

    Help please! This is costly and frustrating!!

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    Hi Laura~
    I know how frustrating it can be… trust me. It’s like the moths always use the same invasion method as a tactic to annoy everyone and drive them crazy! At least that’s what they did to me… Once I cleaned out my pantry and sprayed the cracks and crevices of my pantry and the surrounding areas I hung up pheromone traps and also set mini light traps. The Fly Web Fly Lights are very convenient to use as it plugs in the outlets like a night light. I hope this information helped! Good luck (:

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    I started having problems with my bird seed for my parakeets having grain moths in them. There is none in the actuall food comtainer, but in the bottom of their cage, i keep cleaning the cage, and ill only find one a day after that, but after a few days they all come back, what idea do you have that will not harm my parakeets in the processs?

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    I would recommend trying pheromone glue traps such as Since it is a pheromone trap, you should have no problem with food competition in the area.

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    I’m currently cleaning out my pantry because of these moths. My question is can they can infest unopened boxes of cake mix, jello, oatmeal, dry pasta, bags of dry beans, boxed taco shells and other items such as these? The only way to inspect for infestation in these items is to actually open them so am I better off just throwing them out? Also, are products ‘safe’ if stored in airtight containers such as Tupperware? Thanks for your help.

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    Hi Pam,

    There is a possibility that pantry moths can infest unopened boxes if they are damaged, or there was a problem with the manufacturer. As long as the foods you are trying to store are in tightly sealed, the products should be okay.

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    Hi there

    We have been going through a cycle of sprays from Rentokil (pest control company in the UK) and have not only thrown out our food but been scrubbing clean all the shelves including removing the hinges off the doors.

    We just finished the third out of four spray cycles and this evening found several upstairs close to our bedroom and the bathroom. This is a new development and has left us confused. The kitchen is downstairs and we keep no food whatsoever nor ever eat upstairs. We also have laid out pheromone traps in the kitchen, one in the utility room and this evening, brought one upstairs.

    Maybe you can shed some light on why all of a sudden, we are funding them upstairs? These moths also seem a lot more energetic than the ones we have been seeing in the kitchen not to mention a bit bigger. They are, however, definitely the same specie.

    Thanks

    Guy

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    Hi Guy,

    Because moths are flying insects, you may find a few upstairs, or spread around different areas. As the moths turn into adults, their main purpose is to find a mate and reproduce, so you may not necessarily find them in the kitchen (though they usually stay around the food source). The pheremone trap should help you keep the numbers down, and all foods should be sealed tight. Any boxes or foods left open, or has any broken boxes should be discarded.

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    I keep seeing the worms crawl on the ceiling and have killed some moths. Same as others complain, I cannot find the source. I do store cat food and bird seed/food. To get rid of the worms I spray a piece of paper towel with rubbing alcohol and attach it to one of those “grab” sticks to choke and kill them. Can you tell me what their plan is as far as crawling on the ceiling? Where is their intended destination? I am so grossed out; today there was one dangling from the ceiling. I now wave a piece of cardboard in front of me; if one lands on me I will die! I hate all bugs especially spiders, but these worms have me so freaked out that yesterday there was a spider in the corner on the wall (normally, they get quickly sucked into vacuum). My boyfriend told me the spider was more powerful than the worm. Cannot believe my desperation, but using my “grab” stick, I actually ‘herded’ the spider onto a small piece of paper towel (no alcohol!) and carried it across the kitchen and put it on top of a cabinet where the worms seem to start out from. Whenever I got up during the night I saw the spider crawling (he must have been going behind about six feet of cabinet and coming out the other side). His motion was back and forth, and in circles along the vicinity of where I placed him. In the morning I lost sight of him. Do you think he may be asleep somewhere or did he get eaten by the worms? I asked my boyfriend if he could find me a bigger spider. Is this a possible solution to get rid of the worms or am I reaching to bit too far?? Thanks for any advice…

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    Sorry to hear about your horrible grub infestation. If grubs are continuing to appear then there has to be a source from which they are appearing. If you have any grains or pastas in that cabinet I would throw it out. I would even clean out all my cabinets and spray it down. Unfortunately these grubs can slip through plastic containers and zip block bags so we recommend you store any grain products in air tight glass containers. The cat food and bird food should also be checked to make sure it is not a possible source. Following the clean out I would recommend using pheromone moth traps to trap the adult moths. As temporary relief I suppose you can ask your spider friend for help… although I’m not sure how effective it may be.. haha. Well, best of luck to you!

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    I have a terrible infestation of meal moths in my pantry, which is in my laundry room. I emptied the pantry (threw away a LOT of food, had the exterminator come and spray. Let the spray sit for a day, then went back into the pantry, removed all shelves (I should have done this before the exterminator came), and vacuumed the pantry. All my food is removed from the launder rom and is sealed in ziplock bags, and I already had some in airtight containers. My question is: After I continue to clean, and add the pheromone strips. Will it help if I paint the entire pantry and laundry room? Will that cover any potential eggs and or larva? Also, an exterminator once told me to clean the shelves with either rubbing alcohol or vinegar. Will this help?

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    Painting may help, though it may not be necessary. Instead of painting the surface you can simply clean it down with rubbing alcohol or vinegar. It will definitely help with your treatment.

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    I discovered a pretty bad infestation in my pet treat container. We removed everything, cleaned the container and have moved all pet food to air tight containers. I have not seen ANY more larvae but I kill at LEAST 2 moths a day in our bedroom (where the infestation was) They have not moved to any other area of the house (yet) but I’m wondering if these are just stragglers and the population has been sufficiently interrupted or if I need to take further steps. It’s been about a week since I first found the initial infestation.

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    If you removed the initial source then the rest are most likely stragglers. I would recommend using pheromone moth traps to capture the ones who have been left behind.

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    Hi there,

    Just had great fun reading through these suggestions and kept traipsing back to the kitchen for another go at finding the source. Pesky little buggers. Have done all of the above and now are just waiting… Did also discover that perhaps my hot, “wheat pack” that I store above my microwave (to heat it up) could also be a possible source and sure enough, I had some suspicious looking “webby, case -like things” underneath the bag in the corners of the shelf. Gone! Can’t wait to see some of these suckers lying on the traps over the next few days.

    Thanks once again for all the comments, tips and suggestions!

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    I have my mother in a dementia unit. She had had some bird seed as they had been filling up her bird feeder but now there is an infestation of mealworm moths. I will invest in the moth traps but wonder about spraying. As you can imagine, there is an ongoing source of food scattered due to the dementia of the patients throughout the area. I have gotten rid of the source in her room but they may find lodging elsewhere. What could I safely use in her room that has low fumes for the cracks and crevices?

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    Hi Franki, I would try using CB-80 Aerosol. CB-80 is an insecticide with Pyrethrins, a botanical insecticide. This product is labeled for use inside Nursing Homes, Schools, Hospitals, Daycare Centers, as well as many others. I would recommend that the patient leaves the room until the applied insecticide has fully dried. Leaving the windows open to help ventilate the air will help speed up dry time.

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    I have recently learned these moths can be reproducing in and around a bird cage, for this is happening with a few bird owners in my apt complex.

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    The bird food could be a factor in which the indian meal moths are finding the area near the bird cage a good place to nest. We would recommend checking the bird food and putting out pheromone glue traps.

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